Comments on: Quicker Than window.onload http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/ Examples and tutorials to help you learn JQuery Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:52:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: wesley http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-6 wesley Tue, 23 May 2006 11:40:48 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-6 Too bad that there's all sorts of issues with it: http://jquery.com/discuss/2006-May/001280/ Too bad that there’s all sorts of issues with it:

http://jquery.com/discuss/2006-May/001280/

]]> By: Jack http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-7 Jack Tue, 23 May 2006 13:42:14 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-7 Wesley, From what I've read, it seems to be limited to situations where there is a document.write in the code. Wesley,
From what I’ve read, it seems to be limited to situations where there is a document.write in the code.

]]> By: Joel Birch http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-12 Joel Birch Sat, 27 May 2006 10:16:30 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-12 Yes, I've mentioned the $(document).ready() shortcomings before myself, but jQuery is really young - these sorts of teething problems are being fixed at an amazing rate. $(document).ready() is still my first choice when initialising scripts that need to fire as early as possible. When it works (which usually means when other scripts are not interfering) its an absolute gem. Yes, I’ve mentioned the $(document).ready() shortcomings before myself, but jQuery is really young - these sorts of teething problems are being fixed at an amazing rate. $(document).ready() is still my first choice when initialising scripts that need to fire as early as possible. When it works (which usually means when other scripts are not interfering) its an absolute gem.

]]> By: Dustin Diaz http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-16 Dustin Diaz Mon, 29 May 2006 07:17:24 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-16 The YUI equivalent of this would be <a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/event/#onavailable" rel="nofollow">YAHOO.util.Event.onAvailable</a> which acts just like an eventListener and will fire upon 'load' of whatever HTMLElement that you pass in. Cheers :) The YUI equivalent of this would be YAHOO.util.Event.onAvailable which acts just like an eventListener and will fire upon ‘load’ of whatever HTMLElement that you pass in.

Cheers :)

]]> By: Jack http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-19 Jack Mon, 29 May 2006 21:45:41 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-19 Dustin, As you know from my email to you, I'm a fan of yours. Great to have you stop by! Dustin,
As you know from my email to you, I’m a fan of yours. Great to have you stop by!

]]> By: Dean Edwards http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-25 Dean Edwards Wed, 31 May 2006 10:46:58 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-25 > From what I’ve read, it seems to be limited to situations > where there is a document.write in the code. There are more problems than that. The back button on IE causes the page to render in a slightly different way. This often breaks timer based detects. > From what I’ve read, it seems to be limited to situations
> where there is a document.write in the code.

There are more problems than that. The back button on IE causes the page to render in a slightly different way. This often breaks timer based detects.

]]> By: Jack http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-27 Jack Wed, 31 May 2006 13:08:46 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-27 Dean, First of all, great to have you stop by. I wasn't aware of this issue. Although I haven't noticed it myself, I'll take you at your word. Do you know if the other methods of triggering quick javascript execution before window load (Brother Cake, YUI, etc.) have the same issue(s)? Dean,
First of all, great to have you stop by.

I wasn’t aware of this issue. Although I haven’t noticed it myself, I’ll take you at your word.

Do you know if the other methods of triggering quick javascript execution before window load (Brother Cake, YUI, etc.) have the same issue(s)?

]]> By: Jack http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-30 Jack Wed, 31 May 2006 16:29:47 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-30 Dean has supplied me with two links to his site where he has code that may work for those of you that want something other than jQuery's solution: http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2005/09/busted/ http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2005/09/busted2/ According to Dean, the Brother Cake solution as well as the YUI one (and I suppose all other solutions) are not as relaible as the ones he has come up with. Dean has supplied me with two links to his site where he has code that may work for those of you that want something other than jQuery’s solution:

http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2005/09/busted/
http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2005/09/busted2/

According to Dean, the Brother Cake solution as well as the YUI one (and I suppose all other solutions) are not as relaible as the ones he has come up with.

]]> By: Dean Edwards http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-31 Dean Edwards Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:23:10 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-31 The YUI one is OK because it uses <pre>document.getElementById</pre> to check for the existence of elements, so it is not really dependant on a complete DOM. The downside is that you have to assign an ID on every element you want to address. The YUI one is OK because it uses 
document.getElementById

to check for the existence of elements, so it is not really dependant on a complete DOM. The downside is that you have to assign an ID on every element you want to address.

]]> By: Hercules Papatheodorou http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-176 Hercules Papatheodorou Sun, 09 Jul 2006 22:59:19 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-176 While jQuery's $(document).ready(); seems to be working excellently in Firefox and IE (it's way better than the onload), it miserably fails in Opera9 resulting in a crash of my layout. You can check the code in my website actually. I'll be using the onload one till that gets sorted out because I main test on Opera :/ While jQuery’s $(document).ready(); seems to be working excellently in Firefox and IE (it’s way better than the onload), it miserably fails in Opera9 resulting in a crash of my layout. You can check the code in my website actually. I’ll be using the onload one till that gets sorted out because I main test on Opera :/

]]> By: Jack http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-182 Jack Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:50:09 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-182 Hercules, Have you tried the latest release? http://jquery.com/src/jquery-1.0a.js John announced it on his blog just a few days ago. http://jquery.com/blog/2006/06/30/jquery-10-alpha-release/ And according to John, one of the improvements is in the (document).ready function: <blockquote> $(document).ready() has been drastically improved. It now works in all modern browsers completely as you’d expect, even with Adsense in the page. </blockquote> I have never been able to replicate the problems reported with document.ready so I can't really attest to the improvement... but looking at the code leads me to believe that it uses the typical window.onload as a backup "Plan B". Hercules,
Have you tried the latest release?
http://jquery.com/src/jquery-1.0a.js

John announced it on his blog just a few days ago.
http://jquery.com/blog/2006/06/30/jquery-10-alpha-release/

And according to John, one of the improvements is in the (document).ready function:

$(document).ready() has been drastically improved. It now works in all modern browsers completely as you’d expect, even with Adsense in the page.

I have never been able to replicate the problems reported with document.ready so I can’t really attest to the improvement… but looking at the code leads me to believe that it uses the typical window.onload as a backup “Plan B”.

]]> By: Hercules Papatheodorou http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-195 Hercules Papatheodorou Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:35:42 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-195 I tried what you suggested but it now behaves as the plain old onload, even in FF, which was the only one of the big 3 handling the .ready as it should... I guess I;ll just wait for the finalized release. I tried what you suggested but it now behaves as the plain old onload, even in FF, which was the only one of the big 3 handling the .ready as it should… I guess I;ll just wait for the finalized release.

]]> By: Pozycjonowanie http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-429 Pozycjonowanie Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:51:17 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-429 The YUI one is OK because it uses document.getElementById to check for the existence of elements, so it is not really dependant on a complete DOM. The downside is that you have to assign an ID on every element you want to address. The YUI one is OK because it uses document.getElementById to check for the existence of elements, so it is not really dependant on a complete DOM. The downside is that you have to assign an ID on every element you want to address.

]]> By: Mountain/\Ash http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-3864 Mountain/\Ash Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:58:38 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-3864 Is this different to just using <pre> $(function() { // onload scripts }); </pre> Is this different to just using

$(function() {
 // onload scripts
});
]]> By: nawadnianie http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-6264 nawadnianie Mon, 14 May 2007 11:36:30 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-6264 Wesley, From what I’ve read, it seems to be limited to situations where there is a document.write in the code. Wesley,
From what I’ve read, it seems to be limited to situations where there is a document.write in the code.

]]> By: budowa domów http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-7159 budowa domów Tue, 29 May 2007 10:54:38 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-7159 good article good article

]]> By: tshirts http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-9976 tshirts Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:07:53 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-9976 Great post. You explain the issues and solution clearly. YUI does work reasonably well, but in my experience they can be a little pushy in trying to get programmers to use it. Their basic approach seems to be that anything that makes your page faster trumps all other considerations. In contrast, I would suggest that content counts for a lot and all the speed in the world can’t overcome a lousy looking or functioning page. Additionally, this seems like a simpler, more elegant solution, even if it is still in the process of working the kinks out. And after all, what are a few kinks among friends, right? After all, it isn’t like there aren’t bugs in virtually every piece of software out there. Great post. You explain the issues and solution clearly. YUI does work reasonably well, but in my experience they can be a little pushy in trying to get programmers to use it. Their basic approach seems to be that anything that makes your page faster trumps all other considerations. In contrast, I would suggest that content counts for a lot and all the speed in the world can’t overcome a lousy looking or functioning page. Additionally, this seems like a simpler, more elegant solution, even if it is still in the process of working the kinks out. And after all, what are a few kinks among friends, right? After all, it isn’t like there aren’t bugs in virtually every piece of software out there.

]]> By: James Oppenheim http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-10782 James Oppenheim Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:04:33 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-10782 Great article. However, I still seem to be having problems in IE6 + IE7 as it somethings does not .hide() elements at all. But when I refresh the page it all works fine. Strange!? Great article. However, I still seem to be having problems in IE6 + IE7 as it somethings does not .hide() elements at all. But when I refresh the page it all works fine. Strange!?

]]> By: custom oil paintings http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-11189 custom oil paintings Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:41:32 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-11189 Our problem with Window.onload() is with images. Since our site includes a lot of images, I noticed a lag before the page becomes active. What we want is a way to determine when the DOM has fully loaded without waiting for all those pesky images to load also. System is OK with IE but we’re having problems with FF. Our problem with Window.onload() is with images. Since our site includes a lot of images, I noticed a lag before the page becomes active. What we want is a way to determine when the DOM has fully loaded without waiting for all those pesky images to load also. System is OK with IE but we’re having problems with FF.

]]> By: Addict http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-12538 Addict Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:10:21 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-12538 Maybe its only matter of hardware not software .Maybe when we gonna use p9 47Ghz 1600 gxz 128000ram then its gonna be flawless like a ....or hmmm Maybe its only matter of hardware not software .Maybe when we gonna use p9 47Ghz 1600 gxz 128000ram then its gonna be flawless like a ….or hmmm

]]> By: Lorenzo http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-12568 Lorenzo Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:52:55 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-12568 Can you please put all the html code in this page so I can copy-paste it and try jquery? This is for extremelly dummies like me? Thanks Can you please put all the html code in this page so I can copy-paste it and try jquery? This is for extremelly dummies like me? Thanks

]]> By: Antyki http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-13306 Antyki Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:58:30 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-13306 On Ie it works great! Thanks! On Ie it works great! Thanks!

]]> By: Jules http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-13510 Jules Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:04:30 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-13510 WHy is this a whole day? You can market your site better if you say 15 minutes of jquery. Nobody wants to spend 15 days learning a javascript library. WHy is this a whole day? You can market your site better if you say 15 minutes of jquery. Nobody wants to spend 15 days learning a javascript library.

]]> By: Jack http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-13573 Jack Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:28:38 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-13573 It's a takeoff on another site, and the concept is/was to have one tutorial a day. Not that it should take 15 days to wrap your head around jquery, or any other js library for that matter. It’s a takeoff on another site, and the concept is/was to have one tutorial a day. Not that it should take 15 days to wrap your head around jquery, or any other js library for that matter.

]]> By: sharp aquos http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-20340 sharp aquos Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:00:55 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-20340 Great article. However, I still seem to be having problems in IE6 + IE7 as it somethings does not .hide() elements at all. Great article. However, I still seem to be having problems in IE6 + IE7 as it somethings does not .hide() elements at all.

]]> By: Bret Bouchard http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-24523 Bret Bouchard Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:28:57 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-24523 Very nice, This came in very handy with speeding up a site I'm working on. Very nice, This came in very handy with speeding up a site I’m working on.

]]> By: agencja modelek http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-30767 agencja modelek Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:28:44 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-30767 I use jQuery in my project and Im very impressed of its abilities. I recommend jQuery for all webdevelopers. greetings, agencja modelek I use jQuery in my project and Im very impressed of its abilities. I recommend jQuery for all webdevelopers.

greetings,
agencja modelek

]]> By: Jonah Dempcy http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-34807 Jonah Dempcy Fri, 09 May 2008 10:11:52 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-34807 How does the jQuery $(document).ready() compare to MooTools' 'domready' event, or Prototype 'dom:loaded' ? How does the jQuery $(document).ready() compare to MooTools’ ‘domready’ event, or Prototype ‘dom:loaded’ ?

]]> By: Brian http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-41456 Brian Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:35:25 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-41456 can you use $(document).ready() on a page that has a body.onload function call? I'm in a situation where I cant remove the old JS that has an onload on the body element... from my reading the JQuery ready event gets fired before the old JS would.. can you use $(document).ready() on a page that has a body.onload function call?

I’m in a situation where I cant remove the old JS that has an onload on the body element… from my reading the JQuery ready event gets fired before the old JS would..

]]> By: online shopping http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-43714 online shopping Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:10:14 +0000 http://15daysofjquery.com/quicker/4/#comment-43714 I'm hoping that the new browsers out there (FireFox 3, IE8, Opera 10 when it happens etc.) will put an end to some of the loading times and somehow implement this sort of coding on websites themselves. I have a feeling that regardless of what we do with JQUERY, we'll still find that IE7 or IE6 (which, apparently, most people still run on which is ridiculous) might still just put it's habits on the page – meaning that it's pretty useless at the end of the day until the developers for the browsers do something instead. I’m hoping that the new browsers out there (FireFox 3, IE8, Opera 10 when it happens etc.) will put an end to some of the loading times and somehow implement this sort of coding on websites themselves. I have a feeling that regardless of what we do with JQUERY, we’ll still find that IE7 or IE6 (which, apparently, most people still run on which is ridiculous) might still just put it’s habits on the page – meaning that it’s pretty useless at the end of the day until the developers for the browsers do something instead.

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